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It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry.
.....Thomas Paine

Contrariwise, if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.
.....Lewis Carroll

"MANYyears ago I worked at an industrial hog farm owned by the Coeur d’Alene Indian tribe in northern Idaho. The place stank of the dead and rotting brood sows we chopped out of farrowing crates – bred to death in the drive for pork production­. And it stank of the massive ponds that held millions of gallons of hog feces and rotting baby pigs, and every square inch was poisoned by the pesticides used to kill insects that hogs attract and the antibiotic­s fed to hogs from hundred pound sacks." -Joe Bageant

It's like herding
Kochroache­s, ain't it, Bachmann?

Recent Posts

  1. The Liberal Argument eventually wins out...
    Saturday, March 15, 2014
  2. epistemic closure and the republican party...
    Monday, February 24, 2014
  3. The duck people...
    Saturday, December 28, 2013
  4. All religion, my friend....
    Saturday, December 28, 2013
  5. What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist.
    Monday, December 23, 2013
  6. And the Bible is never wrong....
    Sunday, December 01, 2013
  7. rooting for failure republicans don't need NO stinkin' evidence
    Sunday, December 01, 2013
  8. Pathetic and Sick
    Tuesday, November 19, 2013
    Sunday, November 17, 2013
  10. No job. No Health Care. Can't afford to see a doctor.
    Sunday, September 29, 2013

More Jobs

Barack Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than George Bush Created In Eight Years


April 2014

Bad Monkeys...

“If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.” James Goldsmith
Omnes mundum facimus. (We all make the world.)
--Matt Ruff, Bad Monkeys
"The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

-Speaker of the
House of Representatives
Mitch McConnell

"Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA?s first African-American President."

The Marriage Vow: A Declaration of
Dependence upon MARRIAGE and FAMILY

"Abortion should be both Safe and Legal in this country....."

-Multiple Choice Mitt Romney

Monthly Archives

Garden of Eden

In those days the population of America was about 140 million. A gallon of gasoline was 20 cents a gallon. An ounce of gold was around $30.

Today an ounce of gold is around $1300. The amount of gold available for use is limited. More people. Limited commodity.

Sort of like space on the Garden of Eden planet Earth. Limited.

Can you only imagine a future humanity that can't grasp the consequences of uncontrolled population increases? Sort of like Rupert Murdoch being an honest information person.


Ms. Bachmann is not very fond of GOVERNMENT.

One might argue that she is ANTI Government. Ms. Bachmann and her family made more than $200,000 from the GOVERNMENT in the form of farm subsidies not to grow STUFF. Her husband made more than $200,000 from the GOVERNMENT in the form of medicaid payments counseling unfortunate people with his Christian ETHICS.

Ms. Bachmann has made 100s of thousands of $$$ as a congress person from the GOVERNMENT in the form of a salary. The government she hates so much has provided her with excellent health care for the past 6 years or so as a 3 term congress person.

And Ms. Bachmann now wants to continue receiving 100s of thousands in salary from the GOVERNMENT, she detest so much, as President.

For someone who detest and hates GOVERNMENT,
Ms. Bachmann certainly has benefited tremendously from the GOVERNMENT.

You are consuming entirely
too much Rupert Information.
You need a good purging.

No Taxes on the Rich

For many Republicans, it's an article of faith
that lower taxes on the wealthy stimulate
job growth. But it is increasingly difficult
to find economists who agree.


If Christ were here today a few things he would not be:

*** A Christian

*** A Republican

American Hostage....

“I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting,” he said.

“Most of us didn’t think that. What we did learn is this — it’s a hostage that’s worth ransoming.

And it focuses the Congress on something that must be done.”

-Mitch McConnell

Dimwits in Cowboy Boots...

“The working class here in what they are now calling the ‘heartland,’ (all the stuff between the big cities)” he writes, “exists on a continuum ranging from complete insecurity to the not-quite-complete insecurity of having a decent but endangered job.

It is a continuum extending from the apathy of the poorest to the hard-edged anger of those with more to lose. Which ain’t a lot, brother, when your household income hovers around $30,000 or $35,000 with both people working…

Until those with power and access decide that it’s beneficial to truly educate people, and make it possible to get an education without going into crushing debt, then the mutt people here in the heartland will keep on electing dangerous dimwits in cowboy boots.”

-Joe Bageant


I don't think we should confuse "most electable" with less objectionable. Huntsman is certainly the least objectionable Republican candidate for me. I don't think this equates to most electable.

If I'm a Conservative Republican, the image that is constantly popping into my head when Mr. Huntsman's name comes up is the acronym RINO.

Is Mr. Huntsman a Republican in Name Only?

My preference would certainly be Mr. Huntsman. I have a bias for moderate and reasonable human being leading the country. And if a Republican has to replace President Obama I certainly HOPE that Republican is Jon Huntsman.

Huntsman in the White House would not be a great deal different than Obama in the White House. The most glaring difference in the two men is that one is a White American and the other is a Black American. I think a Huntsman nomination from my perspective as a Democrat would be a win/win situation.

So, Republicans, be reasonable and nominate Jon Huntsman.

fairness"and "equality

Republican conservatives will SETTLE on Huntsman? Embrace Huntsman and not Mitt?

From a Comment I uncovered from a Google search:

Among the hallmarks of marxist argument are the words "fairness"and "equality", instead of "individual liberty"(the antithesis of "equality", since Liberty accepts the reality of inherent inequality). And "fairness" is the hallmark of the view that the Constitution doesn't mean what it says, but should be interpreted according to the "general intent" of the document.

These are both words Barack Obama emphasises often. Mr. Huntsman's dedication to "fairness" and "equality" are pretty big red flags to me.

Likewise, he speaks Mandarin Chinese and was Obama's ambassador to China. We should end free trade with China and bring industries and millions of jobs back to the US. I doubt Mr. Huntsman would agree with that.

In Short, we already have a President who shares a lot of views with Huntsman. His name is Barack Obama, and I want him and his philosphy replaced--not perpetuated.

We're rid of Daniels, and hopefully Huntsman soon follows him into oblivion.

Transforma­tive Change

I support the President because I hope he will do what is best for the country.

Not what is best for Democrats and not what is best for Republican­s. Other wise we put party before country.

Transforma­tive Change doesn't happen overnight. Especially when you have individual­s fighting that change as fiercely as some Republican­s are fighting the President.

In my 62 years on the planet, I have NEVER heard the party out of office say that their primary goal was to remove a President from office. When removal of a President from the White House is the primary objective of the opposition­, you ain't gonna get much done.

Resolving the problems of the the country requires ALL of us working hard and not just the President. Democrats, Republican­s and Independen­ts working together. And when the PRIMARY goal of the opposition is to remove the President from the White House, you don't get much agreement and support from the other side.

Anyone reading this far would be appalled at a Congresspe­rson, Senator, or President engaging in any activity that benefits the voter in exchange for the vote, or contributi­on. >p> I haven't gotten every change I would like, but I think the President has made an HONEST effort and I will vote for him again!


President Obama is probably the only President in history who from day 1 of his Presidency has been targeted by the opposition for removal from office.

Every action and strategy of Republicans for the past 3 years as been focused on one event:


It is well documented what the objective of Republicans is. Party before Country.

Republicans have by design purposely followed a decision path that they think will lead to the removal of President Obama from the White House.

The DO NOTHING Republicans DO NOTHING hoping if Republicans DO NOTHING the President will be blamed by non critical thinking citizens.

Lesser of two evils? Cynical!

I have a real choice and I will VOTE for the President on November 12th. (Oops!)

During the Civil War...

During the Civil War, for instance, many northern abolitionists also called for the liberation of “four million miserable white southerners held in bondage by the wealthy planter class”. Planter elites, who often held several large plantations which, together, constituted much or most of a county’s economy, saw to it that poor whites got no schooling, money, or political power. Poll taxes and literacy requirements kept white subsistence farmers and poor laborers from entering voting booths. Often accounting for up to 70 percent of many deep-southern counties, they could not vote, and thus could never challenge the status quo.

Bageant, Joe (2011-04-01). Rainbow Pie: A Redneck Memoir (pp. 1-2). Independent Publishers Group. Kindle Edition.

traditional rural suspicion of the American business community

Pap never owned a car until deep into the 1960s. So he and Maw and their kids walked a couple of miles over the ridge to the store, not just to buy things, but to use the telephone in emergencies. The phone line ran only as far as the junction store. When my cousin Patricia (Teesie), the only child of Uncle Toad and Aunt Midge, died at age three of spinal meningitis, Pap walked over the ridge to the Unger Store, where he phoned the undertaker at Bumps’ Funeral Home to come get the body. Owner Barry Bumps collected Teesie, did the embalming, and brought her back in the classic “little rosewood casket” of mountain-ballad fame to Over Home, where Patricia was laid out in the living room for a day prior to burial. The day before the funeral service, her casket was placed inside the Greenwood church to await burial the next afternoon. At that time, it was discovered that the coffin would not fit into the child-sized concrete vault lining the bottom of the grave.

So Pap called Bumps again, and told him the vault was too small. “No problem,” Bumps said over the store’s phone receiver, “I’ll send someone out to install a larger vault.” Bumps’ crew finished the job less than an hour before the scheduled funeral. Maw arrived half an hour before the service. She took one look at Teesie’s coffin, ran her hand over it, and exclaimed, “My Lord! This is not the rosewood coffin we paid for!” Instead, the coffin was a cheaper thing, with fake gilt handles instead of brass, and rosewood stain over pine. “It’s been switched!” she said. During the installation of the larger vault, the funeral home had swapped the more expensive coffin for a cheaper pine version. “We need to go down to the store and telephone Bumps, make him get up here with the coffin we paid for,” Maw snapped. She looked at Pap, and Pap looked at her, and both realized that was never going to happen. With the funeral less than a half-hour away, it just wasn’t to be.

“You can’t send everybody off and tell them to come back tomorrow,” Pap said. “So we let Bumps get away with this?” Maw said. Bumps knew all this, too. He also knew that nobody was going to challenge him, because he would just say, “Sue me.” And lawsuits cost money. Besides that, no one in the family was irreverent enough to dig Teesie’s body up again to prove he had switched coffins. The funeral proceeded as planned. Bumps went on to build a large regional funerary business that he sold for millions, amass commercial real estate, and hold political office. Three generations of Bageants and not a few Unger Store folks know this story. And it is as good a symbol as any for the traditional rural suspicion of the American business community, which translates into the rural– urban divide today.

Bageant, Joe (2011-04-01). Rainbow Pie: A Redneck Memoir (p. 39). Independent Publishers Group. Kindle Edition.

"Until those with power and access decide that it’s beneficial to truly educate people, and make it possible to get an education without going into crushing debt, then the mutt people here in the heartland will keep on electing dangerous dimwits in cowboy boots.”

...Joe Bageant

The Liberal Argument eventually wins out...

And is it asking too much that we go back to using the word "entitlement" to mean something that one deserves or has earned? For example, if I put in a day's work, I am entitled to a day's pay. Or if I am ticketed for speeding, I am entitled to my day in court. Or if I pay into Social Security and Medicare for my entire working life, I am entitled to receive benefits from these programs when I retire. When did "entitlement" come to mean "giveaways and freebies for people who don't deserve them"?

This isn't the first time a perfectly good English language word or term has been hijacked for political purposes.

epistemic closure and the republican party...

A Republican characterized the Republican Party as the party of NO. I would characterize the Republican Party as the party of epistemic closure.

Where are Republican intellectual standards? Where is a personality that represents the Republican intellectual engine; an intellectual engine that generates governing ideas?

Am I to believe that the words of Ted Nugent, Rush Limabugh, Louie Gohmert, Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann represent the intellectual soul of the Republican Party? Where is the intellectual engine that drives constructive ideas in the Republican Party.

Which brings me back to epistemic closure.

The engine that drives the Republican Party is religion and  the engine that drives religion is epistemic closure:

“Epistemic closure describes someone who is thoroughly encased in the echo chamber of their own ideology, immune to considering other viewpoints. When people live in epistemic closure, they are immune to integrity because they only trust people who already agree with their ideology. They scan potential sources of information for the presence of code words that indicate whether or not the speaker can be trusted as a member of their own ideological tribe.”

Where is the intellectual curiosity; the intellectual honesty in the Republican Party?

The duck people...

20 years ago when I was 40 or so, I lost my job.  Fine I said to myself, I'll find another.  Along with the job went the health insurance.  

No job and no health insurance.  I'm on the Republican Health care plan... Don't get Sick.  Or better still, the pray to Jesus health care plan.

I have a few skills with computers so I got a few interviews but no job.  I'm 40 and in good health.  I'm single so I can't rely on a spouse for support or insurance.  I hope I don't get sick.

Unemployed now for 6 weeks, I begin to experience spasms and pain in my right side.  This will go away soon I tell myself.  No job, no heath care and pain in my side.

Eight weeks go by and no job, but I do have another interview.  The spasms and pain in my side are now persistent.  The interview goes well.  The employer is looking for a sql programmer and I have all the skill sets.  Two days after the interview I get a phone call for a second interview and I'm offered the job.

I start immediately and in a week or so I'm signed up for the company insurance plan.  A visit to a doctor reveals an ailment that can be treated and is not life threatening.  

I'm willing to be that all the comments critical of the ACA have insurance and access to health care.

No access to health care is not a position you want to be if you get sick.  Not having access to good health care can be hazardous to you health and can kill you.

But I guess if you are fortunate to have a good job and good health care, this fact is of no concern to you.

Oh well, I guess one man's duck is another man's quack....

All religion, my friend....

the quack attack....

quackers have more fun... (not to be confused with quakers...) the guardians of all the values of Scrooge McDuck.  quack quack quack....

Whenever I see Christian values at work, I get a warm feeling all over.

“Forgive, O Lord, my little jokes on Thee

And I'll forgive Thy great big one on me.”

 Robert Frost

“All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry.”

 Edgar Allan Poe

The duck people are an excellent contrast between their values and the values of many other Americans.

What amazes me is that some people are so surprised when this kind of value bubbles to the surface.

Sometimes we become so insulated by our values that we need a good jolt of the values of our neighbor.

This is a good jolt and hopefully will awaken the values of tolerance that the values of intolerance floats waiting to strike at any unsuspecting target......

What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist.

There is a fine line between censorship, good taste and moral responsibility.

-Steven Spielberg

I was poking fun at a sacred cow.  Sometimes exercising the First Amendment right has unintended consequences.  Bill Maher, Dick Gregory, George Carlin and the Smothers Brothers come to mind.

The Smother Brothers were removed from television by CBS censors in 1969.  Today, we call censors judges.  And just as the Smothers Brothers couldn’t provide the CBS censors with a compelling reason for remaining on the air in 1969, I somehow doubt I can provide your "judges" with any compelling reason.
“What is freedom of expression? Without the freedom to offend, it ceases to exist.” 
― Salman Rushdie

However, I will look in the mirror and see a person of reason and principles.  And not a person of hypocrisy.
Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it.
It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.

Nadine Gordimer

And the Bible is never wrong....

Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you.

Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes.

Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days.

Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty.

You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[a]

You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

rooting for failure republicans don't need NO stinkin' evidence

the marketing strategy for these protect your identity companies is to create a perception that your identity is vulnerable at every twist and turn you take where ever you might be.  without that perception, no one pays the $99 a year for their protection. 

and there probably is some possibility that your identity could be stolen.  just as there is some possibility that you might be struck by lightning.  but we don't don aluminium foil hats to protect ourselves from the possibility, because the possibility is so remote.

i've seen no persuasive data that identity data is being stolen at a rate greater than a lightning strike probability. 

an internet article from USNEWS suggest the following:

"...Last week, the Federal Trade Commission came out with its annual report on consumer fraud, and for the 11th year in a row, identity theft has topped the list of complaints, with 250,854 Americans checking in on the matter."

or about a 0.0011 % rate of identity theft in the US based on adult population over 18.

and rooting for failure republicans can't attack the web site because it's not working, they will tack over to it's not secure.  and the evidence offered to support the attack?

rooting for failure republicans don't need NO stinkin' evidence.  evidence just gets in the way of the perception they want to create.

Pathetic and Sick